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Contents 1 November 6 1.1 OS X Binds 1.2 TIGCC and C programming 1.3 Turing test judging as a Turing test 1.4 Connection problem 1.5 Firefox problem 1.6 Rapidshare 1.7 Yahoo 1.8 Some secure pages: Use of Back-button = 'page expired'...Why? 1.9 More Program Help 1.10 Collaboration in MS Excel. How? 1.11 PHP Directory Listing Woes 1.12 proxy server 1.13 Norton Ghost 2003

November 6

OS X Binds

How can you bind a key to do a certian action in OS X? For example, I want to find the F13 key to switch kanas on my computer. Or even do expose. Do I need to use the terminal (which im fine with)? Is their some program that can do this? --Randoman412 (talk) 00:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

TIGCC and C programming

I am trying to write a program in C in TIGCC for my TI-89 Titanium, but I do not know how do implement lists in C. My program can be found on my userpage. How would I modify the program to properly handle the list? There are also some other problems with it, such as the DelVar function, indicating that the variable l should be deleted, and the Pause function, indicating that the program should pause there until the user presses the "Enter" button. How should these be fixed? Lucas Brown (talk) 03:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

push_END_TAG();short i;for(i = 10; i > 0; i--){ push_shortint(i);}push_LIST_TAG();

Then, to read the list back

short sum = 0;float cur; ESI pos = next_expression_index(top_estack);while((*pos) != END_TAG){ //estack_to_short(pos, &cur); sum += cur; pos = next_expression_index(pos);}

estack_to_short should work because i's defined at http://tigcc.ticalc.org/doc/estack.html#estack_to_short. However, it does not... If you don't need to use TI lists, just use a C array. The DelVar also requires specifying the variable to delete on the expression stack. See http://tigcc.ticalc.org/doc/bascmd.html#cmd_delvar . For DrawStr, do:

DrawStr(1,1,"x", A_NORMAL);

Finally, for pause use ngetchx();, which will block until the user hits a key. Superm401 - Talk 06:31, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Turing test judging as a Turing test

Can the ability to accurately judge Turing tests be itself used as a Turing test? NeonMerlin 03:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

NO. If you try to use the ability to judge a Turing test as a Turing test then my program,

 print "JUDGMENT: Program being tested has FAILED the Turing test."

Would be correct for the foreseeable present (since we have no programs able to pass the Turing test) which is a contradiction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.124.214.224 (talk) 05:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• What you're referring to is known as a Reverse Turing test, and there is quite a bit of literature on the subject. So technically, yes - it has been proposed (and tried), and could serve as a type of Turing Test, where "Turing Test" is read to mean "Behavioral (or functional) test for intelligence". However, it does tend to be open to most of the same arguments that are used against the Turing Test, and personally I'd argue that it is likely to be simpler to achieve, and thus less convincing. :) - Bilby (talk) 10:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Connection problem

My pc is using a linksys wireless usb adapter to connect online. I have a good signal and am connected, but when if i open IE or firefox, I get a page load error. I think this is a settings issue, but I'm not sure what to do. BTW, the pc is running windows xp.24.9.157.26 (talk) 04:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

nevermind. i figured it out.97.118.254.230 (talk) 04:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Firefox problem

I just started up and seem to have some sort of FF problem. Basically I'm getting the problem shown on the right across the top of all web pages and not just Wikipedia. I haven't installed any new or updated add-ons since shutting down

Nothing was found!